• hydroptic
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    19 hours ago

    Oh suddenly we think "AI"s are trustworthy?

    I mean Trump definitely is a Russian asset, but what Grok says is neither here nor there

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      16 hours ago

      This isn’t meant to be hard news that you can bet the farm on. It’s just pointing out the irony of Musk’s toy talking shit about Trump. That’s all.

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        15 hours ago

        Exactly, I wasn’t sure the best place to post this, didn’t seem like it was really news, politics, or technology, as much as part of the whole stupid insanity.

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      Nobody’s saying Grok is trustworthy. The article is about it being funny that it keeps saying shit that goes against the “anti-woke” bias it’s programmed to have.

      Though this is obviously not the first time Trump has been accused of being a Putin puppet, and most certainly won’t be the last, it’s hilariously ironic that the chatbot funded by his alleged “co-president” is talking such deep smack.

      There are multiple links to other times it’s happened too. It’s hardly an endorsement of Grok.

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        17 hours ago

        Well, headlining the article as “Elon’s Grok Chatbot Calculates Probability That Trump Is a Russian Asset” definitely makes it sound like it’s supposed to be a calculation of a probability and not just funny as hell.

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          I’m having trouble wording this in a way that doesn’t sound like I’m talking down to you, I can only promise you that that’s not my intent.

          Headlines have always existed to get your attention, they’ve always been sensationalised and are frequently somewhat misleading about the substance of the article on the surface to evoke a reaction and get you to visit the website (or buy the newspaper/magazine). The author decided potential information about Trump being a Russian asset is more attention-grabbing than a meaningless story about a crap LLM designed to be crap by a crappy person turning out to be a piece of crap. If that bothers you then it’s a perfect example of why you shouldn’t get your news from headlines.

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            17 hours ago

            I’m not saying this just based on the headline: it’s not like the article itself displays anything that I’d consider a critical approach to LLMs. Just because I don’t agree with your interpretation of the article doesn’t mean I didn’t even read it.

            Weighing the real estate magnate’s dealings with both pre- and post-Soviet officials, the KGB, and the Russian mobs, Grok said that although there is no “smoking gun [that] proves direct control,” there’s a good chance that Trump is a “useful idiot” for Putin — especially given that “Trump’s ego and debts make him unwittingly pliable.”

            “Adjusting for uncertainty and alternative explanations (e.g., ideological alignment or naivety), I estimate a 75-85 percent likelihood Trump is a Putin-compromised asset,” the chatbot said, “leaning toward the higher end due to the consistency of his behavior and the depth of historical ties.”

            This just reads like Grok is any other source and not an LLM.

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              17 hours ago

              This just reads like Grok is any other source and not an LLM.

              The article opens with “Elon Musk’s supposedly “anti-woke” chatbot”

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                16 hours ago

                Right, which just calls into question how “anti-woke” it is. Does that count as a critical approach to LLM outputs to you?

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                  16 hours ago

                  Nope, but your first two comments were about the headline and not the article which is why I assumed you hadn’t read any of it, and then you were saying they’re treating Grok as a source and not an LLM when they clearly called it a chatbot in the first sentence. I don’t have to comment on YOU bringing up critical approaches to LLM outputs when that’s not what any of this is about because you’re just moving the goalposts.

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                    16 hours ago

                    I didn’t mean that they never called it a “chatbot”, but that they treat it like a regular meatbag source, more or less.

                    But yeah, maybe take a break, you’ve clearly decided to be ANGY about this for some reason.