cross-posted from: https://kbin.earth/m/europe@feddit.org/t/318601
If a social media account is spreading Russian disinformation - does sharing content from the account give it legitimacy?
No, says Carl-Oskar Bohlin, Minister for Civil Defence. But at the authority the minister is responsible for, the answer sounds different.
— In any case, you spread something that a foreign power might intend to spread to make us worried, says Mikael Östlund, press officer at the authority.
It was a year ago that Carl-Oskar Bohlin shared a tweet from the American influencer Lauren Southern, known for her far-right advocacy. The original video warned of how AI is used in influence operations, something the minister forwarded to his around 45,000 followers. “The ability and height of the impact operations risk increasing avalanche-like with disruptive technology shifts,” wrote Carl-Oskar Bohlin on X.
Now, an American indictment against two Russian government employees shows that the production company Tenet media, where Lauren Southern is employed, must have been secretly financed by the Russian news agency RT. A total of just over SEK 100 million is said to have been transferred from the Russian state employees to the American company. In turn, influencers would push specific issues—such as questioning support for Ukraine—to their millions of followers. On YouTube alone, the videos have received more than 16 million views.
In light of the American indictment, Carl-Oskar Bohlin has been criticized for not checking his sources better. But the Minister of Civil Defense lets the tweet stay on X.
“For the simple reason that it is difficult to misunderstand.” writes Bohlin to DN.
“One should of course refrain from spreading harmful narratives from foreign powers. However, it is a somewhat strange indictment that my warning about deepfakes and doctored videos would in itself constitute Russian disinformation. With such a threshold, it will be difficult to talk about or warn about the phenomenon at all,” continues the minister.
Carl-Oskar Bohlin is responsible for the agency for psychological defence, MPF. Countering misdirection and misinformation, including rumor spreading and propaganda, is one of the agency’s main missions.
In case you wonder, mr. Bohlin is from the conservative party (Moderaterna).
I’ve always found it a bit funny that one of the Swedish conservative parties is called the Moderates. They pretend they’re “centre right” like every fucking conservative seems to, because for whatever baffling reason they lack the spine to call themselves right wing. “Nooo you can’t call me right wing, that hurts my feelings – I’m centre right and a moderate! But anyhow, Hitler was right and trans people and leftists should be put in death camps, and here’s some Russian propaganda for you that proves all this”
The far right wants people to think they are the center because it lends them legitimacy. It’s why “weird” works so well against them.
They also have a personal, psychological need to be “normal”. They can’t stand the thought that other people aren’t like them–or maybe even more importantly: that they aren’t like “normal” people.
Bob Altemeyer’s The Authoritarians talks about this in some detail.
I mean… Here in México, the most fascist political group keeps yelling they are the left while sidding with Trump, Putin, the CCP and Maduro, and attack everyone who dares to question or criticise them with thousands of bots who throw those projections into others.
And it worked, there are idiots who drank the koolaid and they got an even bigger win in the past elections.
If it keeps working they’ll keep doing it.
compared to most of Europe’s right, they have historically been pretty moderate. but then last election cycle they opened the door to collaborating with the far right because they would have lost otherwise…
Yeah but that’s exactly it though: they’re not very moderate if they really have no qualms about collaborating with the likes of SD.
It’s the same here in Finland too, the “moderate” and “fiscally conservative” National Coalition Party (Kokoomus) is suddenly pretty much indistinguishable from the far right Finns Party (Perussuomalaiset) now that they’re in a 100% right wing government. They’re eg. loosening the punishment for denying the Holocaust, blocking the progress of a law that would ban “conversion therapy” (ie. psychological violence to turn people straight), their MPs are now openly racist, and so on.
Feels like “moderate” conservatives are just waiting for an excuse to drop their masks. One of my former acquaintances who is supposedly a moderate KOK voter told me straight up that the world would be a better place if gender minorities (like me…) didn’t exist.
i mean yeah. for them it was just that they made a big deal of refusing to even talk to SD as little as four years ago, but that all changed when they dropped in the ratings.
on the flip side, “weird” things have been coming from SD the more mainstream they’ve become. following internal pressure from their gay and minority members (i know right?) their policies on things like gender issues have moved leftward, at least on paper. of course, the purpose of the system is what it does, so i don’t trust them to actually do anything of that, but it seems that some people in there actually care about the politics.
Huh, surprising to hear that at least “officially” SD’s gotten slightly less… well, nazi.
Also, love the Stafford Beer quote 😀 Honestly “the purpose of the system is what it does” is an excellent heuristic.