The idea is very different than the reality. The freedom of information, communication, and variety are so much better now.
Need a job, get a newspaper for classified ads and take whatever you can get, or start calling friends and networking when you’re lucky to get a voicemail.
Want to unwind and watch something? You can spend all evening flipping through channel after channel of garbage.
Need to learn something, prepare to spend days going to different public libraries to find anything useful. Most people don’t learn anything. Most people’s only adult social connection is though religion. It is a small dumb world where I grew up.
One thing I would not take for granted is the massive amount of information out there for repairing/ fixing things in your home. If you have an issue with your lawn mower, I guarantee that someone recorded a video of how to fix it step by step. It is absolutely mind boggling what we have at our finger tips.
Same for things like learning music. Back in the day if you didn’t know another good musician, you’d have to gradually piece together different techniques, chords, etc. yourself. Stuff that took me years to figure out you can learn in minutes now.___
It was probably somewhat beneficial that we all had to go outside and do something through; but yeah in smaller places your only real option would be a church or bar. I miss being able to hang out at the mall, for example; where you’d bump into your friends etc and different groups where there. Was sometimes like a big party. Then again, I was also a kid, we still had arcades that weren’t just dirty ticket casinos.
I called my grandfather when I wanted to learn something. The library was the backup if he didn’t know. He was a well educated engineer, and my grandmother also had a university education and an excellent knowledge of literature.
I wouldn’t mind killing off social media, but I have offline copies of Wikipedia for a reason. That shit is important.
I used to send emails to libraries for information on a certain topic and got back lots of information
How do you get an email address for a library that is actually monitored by a human that would respond?
Libraries provide it as a free service. It’s called virtual reference. Here is one such service I found by searching.
Yes, the amount of time you spent just isolated and bored was unfathomable to people today.
I definitely feel like people are looking at things through research tinted glasses. I would be lying if I said I didn’t think about that stuff.
But at the same time I just got my associates degree while working full time. I didn’t have to go to classes because it was all online. I didn’t need to go spend hours at the library. I was able to type up my papers.
If the majority of people don’t want things like social media, they can always stop. They can find a basic phone. “But they need it for work.” Sounds to me like work is only easier then. I’d rather have easier work.
Edit: I will say though, sometimes I do actually miss some things. Like I wouldn’t mind renting a movie every now and then if I could afford it. It made getting a movie more special. But even then, the convenience of streaming is also hard to beat.
The quality of streaming subscription content is as bad as old cable now. I do without that one. The newer trend of credentialed science communicators sharing white paper summaries and science news takes is really wonderful IMO.
Honestly with the quality of many YouTube creators, I don’t even watch proper shows and movies. There’s quality, in depth and long videos on basically every topic.
Ah, the good old remantization of the things you don’t know.
If they’re so eager about it, they can try taking their hands off the phone, for change.
But that doesn’t take away that other people will be on their phone when you’re with them
Doesn’t change expectations of others for you to respond to work emails or other shit at all hours. Doesn’t bring back the days of concert going paying attention instead of 800 phones being held up to record some shitty angle that will never be watched again, or people being rude while checking out, or distracted driving.
Doesn’t change expectations of others for you to respond to work emails or other shit at all hours.
That was still a thing before the internet/cellphones. My dad would receive phone calls at home at all hours back in the 90s and he was just a low level manager. He just pretended to not be home. When work gave him a cell phone, he would just turn it off when he left work and pretend his phone died.
I have to wonder if the real discussion here is between ‘pre-internet’ or ‘not the internet where you’re the product being sold and sold to’, because I strongly suspect it’s the latter that’s the issue here.
I’m just barely old enough to recall how things worked before the internet and I don’t think people would ever really want to go back to not being able to watch anything they want, any time they want, or not having turn-by-turn directions or even things like ordering a pizza by having to call someone on the phone.
No way, maps and GPS are far too useful.
I wonder if ‘majority of Americans’ really means the guy who wrote this article.
Though in all seriousness I just cannot comprehend that there are people out there who really think the negatives of all this tech outweigh the positives.
I wouldn’t… No GPS or computerized banking, having to go to a physical store or order from a crappy catalog. Nah, no way would I ever.
Imagine going on a road trip and getting stuck somewhere 3 hours from home with no cell phone
What a stupid poll. I don’t see what the article wants me to think, but it was probably a couched question, considering the article explicitly links the Internet to pedophiles, criminals, and people who advocate abolishing democracy.
No mention of the good things that the ability to instantly communicate around the world means. Or a reminder of how stupid things were before the Internet. Like vacuum tubes at Lowe’s.
Even a 54 year old, the top age polled, has no idea what a world without Internet means, as they would have been in their early twenties as America Online was rolling out.
They probably expect it to be just a world where “Do Not Disturb” mode is enabled on their phones all the time while still having access to Netflix and credit card instant transactions and not balancing a checkbook.
Not sure who they are asking or if the poll is being manipulated, but I really can’t see the majority of Americans wanting this. I lived recently in a retirement community, so boomers and older. And they all use and love the internet and cell phones. And everyone younger I run across uses a cell phone (and a computer both with internet).
AT THE TONE THE TIME WILL BE 12:49 AND 50 SECONDS. BEEP!
No thanks. I like my internet time sync and GPS navigation.
OMG, I forgot about calling to get the time of day.
Oh that brings back memories.
It doesn’t have to be a memory, NIST still runs two telephone time numbers - (303) 499-7111 (WWV) and (808) 335-4363 (WWVH). They say they get about 1000 calls a day which is surprisingly high.
They’re still on shortwave too.
The problem with polls like this is that the Internet means something different to everyone. To some Facebook and the like is the entire internet.
shit sucked before, shit sucks now. shit will always suck.
I was just thinking this earlier today. Life just seemed more simple.
Yeah, it was. But only because it was in the 80s and I was in my early teens back then. I don’t think the world was much simpler though. I was just looking at it through oblivious eyes of youth…
Cold War was in its heyday. Russia was at war, just like today. Ronald Regan came to power. There were bloody and terrible terrorist attacks. Chernobyl blew up etc etc.
It was a shitshow.
The late 80s and 90s weren’t so bad. I think a lot of what they call “internet” is really reflecting the algorithmic, intentionally addictive social media (vs the old forums, that were sort of niche even then), and “cell phones” likely smart phones that are a prime avenue for accessing that social media. I’d probably give up my smart phone convenience for a phone-less Spotify streamer and a standalone GPS.
