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    These things (and Seagate’s) have the usb interface soldered on, so if the drivd dies, forget about the data, no way to connect to another usb adapter to try to recover. Granted, it’s usually the drive that dies, but in these cases, you have a 100% rate of non recovery . Any other brand’s are standard drives. My favorite are toshiba.

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      Why would the USB electronics be particularly likely to fail relative to other electronics on the drive?

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        In my experience the drive fails more often than the adapter, but they do fail. Also, there is a good chance to recover data from a failed drive. With a soldered adaptor it’s basically impossible. The worst part is that the externals are often used for backups.

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        Because that’s usually the cheapest part that manufacturers can get away with cheapening iut further.

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      I solder new usb connectors and all manner of other connectors on to stuff all the time.

      I’m at a 100% success rate getting data off stuff that just needs new connectors.

      If you need data recovered, the literal best case scenario is that it’s just got a bad connector.

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        Soldering is not the problem, unless its smd or tiny, its getting a non standard usb interface.

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          you mean in the case of a dead USB ic or something or do you mean the USB port isnt standard?

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      OMG is it bad. We used a couple WD drives for a surveillance camera array and they didn’t last a year. Two drives failed 9 months apart. Ended up going on Blackblaze and picking what looked best for our XFS Raid 10 having learned that lesson the hard way.

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      Yeah our company learned the hard way when they bought out G-DRIVE. Got a line failure on 4x 20TB drives.

      Switched back to LaCie and Glyph.

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      They’re external, you’re not going to be using them for performance anyway.

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        Yes, I should’ve added - whether the write speed matters depends on your own use case.

        For my SMR drive, it’s taking roughly 2GB of backup files every few hours, in the background, and there’s plenty of empty space on the drive. In my case, it doesn’t matter at all.

        However, if you’re sat at your computer, frequently transferring large files while the drive is at least half full, and you have to wait for completion… Then it’ll matter.

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        True, but to a point. Being external, it’d be something I plug in occasionally to back up large project files. I don’t technically need blazing speeds but I’d still be displeased if my transfers took 10 minutes or more.

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    Bought some of the old versions for backup drives. That was a mistake.

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        Very high failure rate. even sony 2.5’s have a similar rate of death. For some reason this form factor is just terrible for longevity

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          My bet is on density. You cram so much in such a tiny space, so any tiny imperfection or fault will corrupt the data or render the drive unusable.

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            At the time it was fine. I had an array of 4tb drives that I was backing up with a series of 5gb drives. They were just so unreliable; all but one failed while the array they backed up is still spinning strong.

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          Bingo. Sorry, had typed a reply about my failure rate and difficulties getting an RMA but forgot to submit.

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        Not exactly reliable and less than easy rma process.

        Sorry, had typed this and forgotten to hit submit :(

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    I paid around $300 for one of the first 2TB drives. Surprisingly it hasn’t come that far

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    I’ve got the 5TB version of this drive as a backup for my gaming laptop. Haven’t had any problems with it.

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      Videography
      Photography
      Downloading Machine Learning Models
      Data for Training ML Models
      Training ML Models
      Gaming (the games themselves or saving replays)
      Backing up movies/videos/images etc.
      Backing up music
      NAS

      Take your pick, feel free to mix and match or add on to the list.

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      My mate has 120TB on his NAS and it’s about half full. He’s got programs that automatically download music, movies, shows, and more as soon as they’re released.

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      Scientific workloads often involve very large datasets. It might be high resolution data captured from various sensors, or it might be more “normal” data but in huge quantities. Assuming the data itself is high quality, larger datasets mean more accurate conclusions.