“Well, we have police departments investigate themselves…”
“We are continuing to press them for additional information.”
“But why not why not have an independent forensic investigation, which the Palestinians are calling for?”
As Hunter Thompson said, to ask the question is to answer the question.
“Go investigate yourself.”
…is… is that supposed to be a western liberal tough talk or something? Performative parenting at its worst.
They cant seem to get off the “israel said so” train. Refusing to even consider an alternative. Is there no way to get a different member of the international community involved enough to run such an independent examination? Or is everyone else sitting on the fence watching to see how yhe play ends?
Who is going to let another country investigate their Military during an ongoing war? Isreal has to be the one to provide the reports its not that unexpected or out of the ordinary.
If they want our weapons they can submit to our investigations.
I think the us values the billion dollar arms contracts over preserving the quality of this investigation. It sucks because Biden can’t even be pressured with voting because the otherside has a worse stance.
The other side will always have a worse stance on everything, that means you can never pressure the Dems. That’s not a good enough reason.
You can pressure them 100% I’m not trying to stop you there. but I don’t think many people are not voting or changing their votes over this issue. I think the dems know this and know they don’t have to change their stance.
Do you think this is a fair assessment?
That’s fair, if they think they can risk it that’s on them.
I’d hope they would cater to voters and try to win them over, but I guess this election isn’t too serious for them to care.
That’s a fine attitude for penne ante stuff. But this is emergent and killing thousands of people right in front of us. We either pressure him or throw our values out the window anyways.
They should be forced to let independent investigators investigate whatever Israel like it or not. There is investigations in ukraine during the war. Not even russia allies would say russia should investigate themselves
Without US support Israel would cease to exist within a year, so the US can do whatever it pleases. Second, the investigation does not need to be performed by a military but can also be done by neutral observers.
Do you have other specific examples? Preferably with sources. As a layman it’s very unexpected, I’d like to learn more.
Seems like noone will investigate
I don’t have any examples but I would change my stance if there were examples of countries letting others investigate their military in the middle of a war.
A bit different (since there was no war yet and it wasn’t about the military) but after the assassination of Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo, Austria requested to send their own police to investigate the case around the “Black Hand” (the terror organisation that assassinated him).
It really isn’t unusual for countries to deny foreign investigation.
That particular denial cascaded into a string of events that wiped out nearly a generation of people.