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    Does he want to teach the history of slavery without mentioning skin color too?

    Denying the history of racial discrimination is racism by proxy.

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      This clown was elected state-wide to be superintendent of public education….so that he could run around Oklahoma holding meetings about banning books in public libraries. If you’d written a George Orwell rip-off with this plot-line 20 years ago, it would have been dismissed as hyperbolic and absurd.

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      I get it, but remember how big the US is! Some is us (myself included) are just kind of stuck in the middle of it. Easier to just talk about America by state, honestly.

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    Does this surprise anyone? The United States of America was built and only survived because of the institution of slavery. We are the only country in the world that had to have a Civil War to decide if slavery was bad. And up to 30% of our CURRENT DAY citizens still refer to that event as a “lost cause” or the “war of northern aggression”. No, this approach is and always will be consistent with the brand.

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    Well you could say that some Americans were racist against other Americans, and that the racists were violent, evil idiots who believed in a dumb idea that humans have meaningfully different races. That they further believed some of those races were superior to others (and they just happened to be in the “superior” race). That they were told over and over by their smarter fellow citizens that they were wrong. They had mixed success in enshrining their evil, idiotic beliefs into law (depending on how many of their fellow evil idiots lived in the area).

    Lastly we could point out that in spite of all the road blocks the violent, evil, racist idiots put in the way of those other people, those people banned together and built a prosperous, thriving community in Tulsa called Greenwood. The violent, evil, racist idiots were so jealous and confused (because they were too evil and stupid to understand) that they got angry and attacked the peaceful, smart, prosperous people of Greenwood with guns and bombs and even used planes.

    There, I never mentioned skin color.

    Skin color is a handy shorthand, and clearly the violent, evil, racist idiots who attacked Greenwood thought it was a good shorthand.

    Of course, there’s a really good chance that the people fighting “CRT” and “DEI” (neither of which can they probably define) are also violent, evil, racist idiots. So idiotic, in fact, that they think it’s impossible to talk about evil racism and the evil racists who like it without mentioning skin color.

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      “Which group were the evil ones?”

      “Due to the laws of the state of Oklahoma, I am not permitted to tell you. But I’ll bet you can guess.”

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      You could probably get pretty far by referring to ‘ethnic Africans’ as well, or some similar phrasing, since ethnicity encompasses not just racial, but common national, tribal, religious, linguistic, or cultural origin as well.

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      Is learnt it from the opening of the Watchmen tv show, and then asked my black M.I.L. about it. It was crazy that it was real event, and even crazier that they don’t want to mention race when it was literally called “black wall street”.

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        I paused the show to explain to my kids that it was a real event, then realized that they might have never learned about it unless it was for Watchmen. (We later saw the history galleries in the Smithsonian African American Culture Museum in DC and they had a section on it, but otherwise you have to seek out the info on your own.) I’m having my kids read The People’s History of the United States because I’m not sure they will be getting any of that in US schools.

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          I live in Tulsa and it’s not discussed even here as much as you might think. Although the area of Black Wall Street down on Greenwood has a museum and is something of a destination for people of all colors.

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            And yet the 200 year old Alamo propaganda is taught twice, probably more in Texas, full page spread to us making 70,000 purple hearts before we nuked Japan.

            Then missing the point of Upton Sinclairs “The Jungle” the same way people did at its release.

            Nice little blurb about the child version of Hellen Keller that never acknowledges her lifelong devotion to unionization and worker safety.

            Maybe a sentence or two about Blair mountain, no mention of John Brown at all except maybe a pop out 2 sentences about the date of Harper’s ferry.

            Infact lots of dates, almost no reasoning or abstraction, discussion of class, gender, race, or national relations (though maybe a side paragraph about the Irish during their genocide which would be called a famine to avoid upsetting engerlend, or the Germans during WW2), nary a mention of our intelligence agency coups in south America or the middle east, much less the barbaric tactics employed.

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              Am English, we didn’t learn about the Irish potato famine in history either, even though it’s something deeply tied to British history because it is a part of a long pattern British oppression of Ireland. Hang on, I’m seeing a pattern here…

              Nevermind, let’s just learn about the Tudors again!

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        Whose accomplishments, if they are ever mentioned, will never bring up the topic of her race. Race isn’t really a major factor with regard to her, but dang if these folks don’t like to re-write everything to downplay racial issues in the country.

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    It wasn’t about race, they just really hated those people, they just happened to be black… and they didn’t hate people that just happened to be white. Nothing to see here. / s

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    Pay reparations to the descendants and make it right. Then you can go around all day pretending like nothing bad ever happened and we wouldn’t care.