• disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    3 months ago

    Speech is not action, but I agree it can lead to action. Actions are held accountable by law.

    I absolutely agree that speech can be harmful, and harmful language should not be tolerated. It should be met with resistant speech or ignored. Social mores are not legislated, but agreed upon by society as a whole. If it’s a location where you are required to listen, such as employment, there are already laws in place to protect you from harmful language.

    I assume no good faith from intolerant people. I do not expect them to change their mind. By meeting their ignorance with truth, you can provide the listeners with a contrasting view.

    I suggest you read about historical dictatorships and authoritarian control of speech to understand the potential dangers of empowering your government to determine acceptable speech. It may seem like a good idea at first, but all it takes is someone you adamantly disagree with to take office with that power and everything changes.

    • Sprawlie@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      3 months ago

      Speech is not action

      Yes it is. And this is why the Free speech absolution argument fall flat on it’s face.

      Speech is Action.

      Speech encourages Action

      Speech is powerful. There’s a reason why there’s the old saying “The pen is mightier than the sword”. Words are the most influence action we have.

      I’ve responded to you enough. the fact you’re going to sit and defend peoples right to hate speech implies to me that you have some of these opinions yourself that have been called out for and you want to defend your right to say them.

      So, On that assumption, I don’t think you and I have a further need to talk.

      • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        We’re not having the same discussion.

        I don’t like [group] people. Constitutionally protected, but under attack.

        We should hurt [group] people. Inciting violence, and a chargeable offense.

        And for what it’s worth, I think racism and nationalism are deplorable.