This shouldn’t come as a huge surprise. Meta is moving forward with their plans for Theads and the Fediverse, and their adjusted terms reflect a new impending reality for Fediverse users.

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      Technically, yes, you save metadata of all of those things. However: you are not a company that profits from vast amounts of data ingestion.

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        But if they really wanted to profit off this information could they not set up another instance without a public announcement? It seems like you’re mad they collect information every other instance collects “because they can profit off it” without any concrete reason.

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        However: you are not a company that profits from vast amounts of data ingestion.

        The entire current Fediverse isn’t vast data by Meta, Google, Microsoft, and Apple standards.

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          You aren’t making the point you think you’re making. Sure, at somewhere between 8 to 11 million accounts, the Fediverse is a small pond. Meta is a gigantic whale. Ingesting the entire graph of everyone on the network would be relatively trivial for them, storage-wise.

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      Yes, but do you analyse this information to sell it to advertisers? Will you start posting sponsored content based on this information? And will the money you collect benefit the community you live in, or will it buy you another politician?

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          Altering the language of a service policy (or, writing a new one) is usually a good indication that something is indeed about to change at a larger level.

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            I’m gonna play Devil’s Advocate here…

            What’s to stop them from scraping the Fediverse without federating? If they really want the data, they could very well find a way. At least they’re spelling it out here and announced an attempt at proper federation.

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              The article discusses this, a bit. One of the other platforms is considering an enhancement to require request signatures on non-ActivityPub APIs, I.E. Meta can make unsigned requests, where the server doesn’t know who they’re from, but only get minimal (or no) data back, or Meta can make signed requests, and instance owners get to decide what data (if any) they’re okay with sharing to Meta, based on Meta’s privacy policies. Beyond API’s, you’re talking about web scraping, which is something the industry has been handling for decades.

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          It also says exactly what they’re planning to collect for starters. That was news to me.

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          I wouldn’t put it past them to put tracking images into posts though. Either way… I wouldn’t be happy on a server that is connected to threads.

          Speaking of which… I see lemmy world see still hasn’t defederated from Threads. I guess it’s time for me to kill my account here.