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    Trump is femme/queer coded as hell.

    The jazz hands, the makeup, the camp interior design.

    The beautiful younger wife whose main purpose is to symbolise traditional heteronormative stability, but clearly is not romantically involved.

    and yeah the ballroom

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    Depends.

    Is this woman overtly bigoted and does she constantly demonize half of U.S. citizens?

    If so, then she’d have staunch support of all conservative voters regardless of what else she does.

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    “a women president” I think the pendulum has swung back too far. You can use “female” if it’s in adjective form, that is in fact normal.

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    Oh yes.

    Love it when people pretend that Democrats support something because they offered a sound byte. 🤟😎

    What mattered was that they didn’t do anything meaningful to solve the problem.

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      Exactly.

      Biden November 2020: “Vote for me, the other guy is a Nazi!” Biden January 2021: “I couldn’t possibly order the prosecution of my political opponent, best to just move on!” Harris November 2024: “Vote for me, the other guy is a Nazi!”

      Actions speak louder than words. If you don’t treat the Nazis like they’re actually Nazis, people will not believe you when you say the other guys are Nazis.

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    Imagine if Biden and the DNC had the brains to back a capable woman with the actual skills to do the job instead of a puppeted genocidal failure who stood for nothing, can barely manage to stumble through a speech, and couldnt lead her way out of a paper bag. There are lots of capable women who can do that job. The DNC screwed everyone with that and we lost to one of the lamest republicans anyone can imagine. The party is ready to implode at this point due to incompetence , spinelessness and bribery by genociders.

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      She was still a better pick than the turd in office right now. But Americans are too brainrotted to accept and correct their own failures.

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        you keep trying this “lesser of two evils” “lets court the middle” “strategy” and it never works. When will you learn this. Your strategy wont win future election, its practically designed to lose. The last time you tried you eroded the base in every measurable demographic except 1, did you even notice that? If you lose in every demographic with a strategy, how will you ever have the votes to win any election? By making up votes from independents and converting republicans, Schumer famously said. But that keeps being tried and it keeps failing, time after time. Its factually proven to be bad strategy and you have to learn to win. Whats it going to take for you to choose not to lose?

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          I don’t want to engage this early as I just woke up; I think a lot of poeple arguing your type of way are paid agents to help corrode western democracy

          But

          Your side seems to omit the fact that the democrats were fighting a systematic takeover of the media to brainwash as many not-as-politically-engaged people as possible. A take over the likes of the US have never seen before and it’s culmination happening with Trump. A campaign to fully take over the US which worked wonders for them.

          The tan suit and spicy mustard debacle actually riled people up because certain media was running it constantly. Media that was brainwashing millions to hate democrats for every and any little things. Media that planted the idea that thinking like a democrat was any harsh word you didnt want to be associated with.

          So although the lesser of two evils plan was still in effect, the (wayyy) lesser evil wasn’t literally the hate mongering messiah put in place by a decades long plan to overtake the media at its literal peak of execution

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            a systematic takeover of the media to brainwash as many not-as-politically-engaged people as possible. A take over the likes of the US have never seen before

            Is this your first encounter with politics or something? There’s no way you actually think this is the first time America of all places has used the media to radicalise its populace.

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              wasn’t literally the hate mongering messiah put in place by a decades long plan to overtake the media at its literal peak of execution

              Is this your first time reading? Theres no way you read one sentence that didn’t sit right with you and jump to conclusions

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                Yeah yeah, Trump is special an unique and the world has never seen anything like him before, except like… Nearly every single previous US president. So once again - are you new to American politics, or is your head stuffed so far up your arse you genuinely think any part of this is new or different?

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                  So I’m convinced people like you are out here to waste people’s time and energy on comment wars instead of putting that time into doing something actually productive so I’m just going to cut if off here and go help people IRL

                  You’re a loser. Talk to you never!

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            Did you vote “uncommitted” in the primary to show your party that supporting War Crimes was not a negotiable to you? I did.

            I suppose you went with voting Biden then Harris-- despite their issues,zionism sellout, and low approval-- signalling you’d sacrifice literally everything to do what you’re told (become a party to the DNC sellout of all of our votes, and become utterly owned by foreign genocidal fascist theocrats) and then you lost anyway after you whored yourself to them with some failed lesser evil strategizing that sounded smart to you at the time. How did that pan out, did you win? Was your strategizing validated? Did you get the dems to support what you feel is important to our society? Maybe I’m wrong and yours was the path to winning?

            We’ve all done this same conversation before right-- Heres the part where you try to “blame” me for the fact that you sold out and got nothing, and then I tell you that I owe you nothing, that you disgust me, that I dont care about your complaints, and that we’ll do this again for every election from now on until you REALLY understand that lesser evilism + pivot rightward for votes strategy will never win. By that time my strategy of accelerationism will have kicked in-- those destroyers of our civilization do work fast! and we’ll go hunting fascists together. We’ll get along fine then. Looking fwd to it.

            You and I both want the same things, but we disagree on the path to getting them.

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              that’s a lot of words that, ultimately, didn’t answer the damn question.

              In 2024, Americans were presented with a basic IQ test. Who did you vote for?

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                I told you supporting war crimes was non-negotiable and not for sale, so use your noggin and do the math, who did I vote for? And who will I vote for going forward? This isnt complicated. It never was, and it never will be.

                You talk of basic IQ tests, lets see if you have basic reading comprehension. Go ahead, the information is all there already.

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                  Ok, so clearly you failed the test.

                  Did you get what you wanted out of this? Has the genocide been stopped? That one issue that prevented you from using the rest of your braincells?

                  I can straight up tell you right there right now, we are not the same. We don’t want the same things. Not even remotely close.

                  I share nothing in common with stupid people who looked at Trump, looked at Harris, and thought “wow, i’d rather have Trump.”

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      It’s by design. It’s not that they can’t find capable candidates in a population of 340+ million people, that would be rediculously incompetent. Their candidates are just exactly what the DNC wants: status quo. The DNC is nothing but conservative at this point, and they’d rather lose, than risk a socialist candidate who will break the status quo.

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    Harris said she wouldn’t be any different than Biden, meaning she doesn’t have a spine and would have let Bibi Netanyahu and the Israeli government dog walk her with little pushback.

    Genocide is an unforgivable crime that must be rejected by everyone at every station in society.

    Fuck Joe Biden for not dropping from the race earlier and withholding primaries from us. Genocide Joe will earn his keep forever with that decision.

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      Her support for genocide was certainly a glaring weakness, but what really lost her the election is that the majority of left-leaning voters are sick of status quo corporate policies. Democrats keep trying to court the Sunday brunch crowd, when the economy is so bad that the brunch crowd doesn’t even exist anymore. The Dems have alienated the left-wing so completely that they ran fucking Liz Cheney as VP. But even that strategy was stupid because why would right wingers vote for Republicans-lite?

      The veil is starting to fall on US politics, and the people starting to realize that American Democracy is a dream, not reality.

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        Democrats spent the 2024 Presidential Election courting Republicans, even far right Democrats, instead of banking on a populist leftist platform of people over profits.

        The ultimate manifestation of the base rejecting that ethos was in the Palestinian freedom movement.

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      That is pretty valid. Him not dropping out did rob us of our primaries and our choice. I wonder if that was their plan all along.

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      Yeah… Nevermind all the good shit people do… Lets focus 200% on this single issue and then vote for a convicted criminal with lots of rape accusations.

      The problem is that the right wing supported Trump (because they believed him). And, then, there were people on the left wing who attacked Harris, and drowned out their good policies.

      Either Harris nor biden are at fault. It’s people like you.

      So, instead of electing someone who is a bit shit, you elected someone who is 1200% shit

      Congrats on making racism a thing again worldwide.

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        I agree with what you’ve said but I don’t think this person actually voted Trump.

        If I were to guess, based on their message alone they probably didn’t vote, or cast it for some random with no chance.

        You could argue that not voting, or wasting the vote, is akin to voting for Trump. But regardless, I agree that people with the OPs mindset helped trump her elected and made everything worse for everyone… Except billionaires

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          I voted for Kamala.

          I didn’t endorse her, and I criticized her until the very last moment. But I swallowed the pill because she was a better choice than Trump.

          She had every opportunity from when Biden dropped to Election Day to ride her hype wave to success. But instead, she told Walz to shut up with his populist leftist speech, told everyone at the DNC that she wants the “world’s most lethal military”, said she’d be no different from Biden, and all the while wasted 1 BILLION DOLLARS IN THE PROCESS.

          Kamala’s campaign was the worst fumble in recent political history. It mocks all the effort Bernie Sanders had to go through TWICE.

          Waste of a candidate, and waste of an election.

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          In the current US voting system, not voting Harris was functionally the same as voting Trump. You always need to vote for the lesser evil unless you want the greater evil in a two party system.

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      Former President Biden failed in regard to the Middle East, but the MAGA fucknuts shit the bed on a greater scale.

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    I live in USA as a non-citizen permanent resident. I cannot vote, hence I only watched that election from the sidelines. My personal theory is that the reason why Trump won over Harris in 2024 is because a large number of people wanted accountability and justice over crimes against humanity that happened under Biden, and which Harris seemed to fully support. But here we are, a year and a half into Trump 2.0, and yet absolutely nothing was done on that issue, while the orange man made life hell for those who live in post-sex-change bodies (I happen to be one), made the economy even worse, and started a new war of choice.

    Now bring on the downvotes…

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      Exactly. The pattern is:

      1. Liberals force through an unelectable candidate that cannot cater to American voters.
      2. Progressives point out, “hey, this candidate is unelectable, they’re going to lose. We should choose someone that isn’t awful.”
      3. Liberals scream, “Shut the hell up. We’re the adults in the room. They’re centrist; by definition are more electable!”
      4. Progressives hold their nose and vote for the liberal shit stain anyway.
      5. Liberal shit stain loses despite massively winning the progressive vote.
      6. Liberals spend the next four years blaming their failures on progressives.
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        Yup. Except that “liberals” are center right corporatists that are not popular and have terribly policy ideas that no one supports.

        Republicans are right-wing to far right nationalists with similar corporatist policies.

        While “progressives” barely register as left on the spectrum, and their policies are not well supported by the corporatists and they have no spine.

        The resulting “governance” is basically pretending to try and pass legislation until the corporate overlords threaten to fund their opponents and the policy disappears. They get to say “they tried” while still getting a paycheck and continuing to take corporate money for reelections.