It’s now painfully obvious that if you want people to act civilly and engage in good faith, they need to have some skin in the game. This kind of free-for-all where it takes two minutes to create a new anonymous account is never going to work.

I only need to browse Lemmy for two minutes to run into the first inflammatory comment, and I’m just so done with all of that. Going from here to there feels like stepping into a room full of adults. It’s incredibly refreshing to be around people who treat each other as humans instead of just performing for an audience and fishing for applause.

A good example of this is that in a recent poll 97% of users said they view Trump as uniquely dangerous, yet there’s a post on the front page by a Trump supporter asking people to challenge his views - and not a single person is attacking him personally or calling him a fascist.

Rules of the community:

  1. Engage in good faith.
    Assume the best of people you disagree with. Challenge ideas, not intentions.

  2. Steelman before you criticize.
    Make sure you understand someone’s position before you argue against it. If you can’t articulate their view fairly, keep reading.

  3. No outrage, no grandstanding.
    This isn’t the place for performative takes or scoring points. Say what you actually think.

  4. Stay curious.
    You might be wrong. So might everyone else. Approach conversations as a chance to learn, not just to be heard.

  5. Keep it civil.
    Disagree as sharply as the argument requires, but never get personal. Attack the idea, not the person. No insults.

  6. No spam or self-promotion.
    Don’t use this community to sell something or grow your own platform.

  7. Stay on topic.
    If your comment is about something different, consider creating a new post.

  8. Respect the lurkers.
    Not everyone wants to post. Don’t pressure people to engage, and don’t call out members who prefer to listen.

  9. AI is a tool, not a voice.
    Feel free to use these tools however you like to think, research, or edit, but what you share should represent your own thinking.

Some of you might know/guess the community in question but I will not reveal that here as it’s not relevant. This isn’t an invite.

  • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@anarchist.nexus
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    A good example of this is that in a recent poll 97% of users said they view Trump as uniquely dangerous, yet there’s a post on the front page by a Trump supporter asking people to challenge his views - and not a single person is attacking him personally or calling him a fascist.

    Absolutely scathing indictment of that social media platform. Like it’s a Nazi bar by your admission.

    I only need to browse Lemmy for two minutes to run into the first inflammatory comment

    Should be zero fucking seconds for Trump supporters, Nazis, and other monsters as long as they exist.

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    Interesting that you haven’t said what you are comparing Lemmy to, just a “paid social media platform” unless I missed it and this is an advertisement post.

    News and political communities are always full of trolls, sock puppets, and other narrative spining groups which is why when you join any social media you block all news and political communities.

    yet there’s a post on the front page by a Trump supporter asking people to challenge his views.

    That is 100% engagement bait. That user will not change their mind, none ever do.

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      It’s a bit incoherent to criticize me for both not revealing the platform and advertising it in the same sentence.

      That is 100% engagement bait. That user will not change their mind, none ever do.

      Maybe, but it’s interesting to see them engaging with the immense pushback they’re getting. They might not change their mind, but it definitely gives me insight into what’s actually going on in the mind of a person like that. Nine times out of ten a post like that immediately devolves into personal attacks and name-calling, and no sane person wants to take part in that. I find this vastly more productive.

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        It’s a bit incoherent to criticize me for both not revealing the platform and advertising it in the same sentence.

        Not incoherent because it’s a well used guerrilla marketing tactic.

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          Right. Well add cynicism to the list of reasons why this place is so depressing.

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            I personally think you are depressed in general and need to take a break from being online. It raw dawg in these streets. hahaha guerrilla marketing hahahaha we broke… well maybe not all but a lot hahahah

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    …Is it a crypto community?

    A “one time entrance price” and maybe a minisicule subscription sounds appealing and actually does solve many issues. But dancing around it sure makes it sound like a crypto thing.

    And I’m not rabidly anti blockchain or anything, but its absolutely impossible to ignore that the space is overwhelmingly scams. Kinda like the AI space; I like my local ML, but I am under no illusions ,either.

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      It’s a subscribtion based platform and has nothing to do with crypto. It’s effectively a subreddit turned into independent platform to escape everything that’s wrong with reddit.

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    I don’t think it’s entirely necessary but it definitely helps. For a while I was a regular poster on this free, female-oriented African American (I’m none of those and was open about it, lol) discussion board and people were, at most, passive aggressive but still open to “patching things up”. Personally, I don’t care too much, I have “thick skin” from growing up playing Dota and being a hiki tripfriend on the chans… what triggers me the most is downvotes with no engagement, no debate, feels so cowardly/intellectually lazy. 😑

    Anyway, glad you found a better/different place. Keep it secret, keep it safe!