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    Once again, I’ll believe it when I see it.

    I’ve long since lost any hope of real consequences.

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      This has really brought to light just how broken our legal system is. It’s not even remotely just Trump, it’s virtually everyone with money and/or power.

      Elon Musk straight up directly helped protect the offensive military assets of an enemy nation during their ongoing, unprovoked invasion of a country ours is fully invested in protecting, and nothing happened.

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        Fun fact: It’s not just the legal system. It’s kind of fucking everything. Corruption is everywhere. It’s progressively gotten worse over the decades while not enough people cared to do anything about it. Now we have campaign finance shenanigans, lobbying tomfoolery, citizens united ruling, regulatory capture all over, the first trillion dollar company and numerous other oligopolies. Here in the good ol’ US of A, it’s Dollar Über Alles.

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          It’s not everywhere. You don’t have to bribe/tip your doctor or your police.

          But yes, in higher levels there’s a lot. I’d still say less than half of Congress is explicitly compromised.

          We’re far from the bottom, but also far from where we should be. This police problem should be first on the list.

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        Elon Musk straight up directly helped protect the offensive military assets of an enemy nation during their ongoing, unprovoked invasion of a country ours is fully invested in protecting, and nothing happened.

        I think the problem there might be that we don’t actually have a law prohibiting that yet (probably because until recently, it wasn’t possible for one guy to have the power to do that sort of thing in the first place). We apparently need one, but we can’t do anything about the Musk incident because of the whole “ex post facto” thing.

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          I’m assuming that because his network is carrying what the US would consider classified information, he (and his involved employees) have clearances and have signed those great NDAs that will send you to prison for violating them.

          I’d be interested to see an infosec audit of the top offices.

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          You’re suggesting a law mandating that private businesses must allow their products to be used for military purposes? That sounds fashy as fuck to me

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            First of all, no, that’s not at all what I said and I resent the your dishonest attempt at DARVO-ing. Musk is the fascist here, not me.

            Second, your argument about SpaceX being a “private business” is ridiculously oversimplistic. It is intimately intertwined with the US government in myriad ways, from receiving grants to develop its technology in the first place, to having contracts to launch stuff on behalf of NASA and other government agencies, to being subject to the regulations of the FCC, FAA, etc.

            Third, Musk allowed his product to be used to help Ukraine voluntarily, then he betrayed that commitment in order to play kingmaker and interfering in something he had no right to. He shouldn’t get to pick and choose what Ukraine does with the service any more than Comcast and AT&T should get to pick and choose what websites people visit.

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      Yes. Furthermore it seems if you’ve ever held office, been a director, worn a uniform or robe your invincible. Unless you did the right thing. I’m sure you get punished for having integrity.

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      The consequences haven’t been fully enforced yet, but I’m cautiously optimistic about this one. He’s already been found guilty of fraud and there’s already an order from the judge to dissolve Trump Org and all presence in NY - hotels, golf courses, businesses, etc. The rest of the trial is just “how much of an additional fine does Trump need to pay?”

      Of course, there will be appeals and it’s possible the verdict gets overturned. Still, it’s a promising direction.

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    So like, if I was a defendant in a civil case, and if I tried a fraction of the bullshit he’s pulled in the context of this particular trial alone, I’d be thrown in jail for contempt of court faster than you can say “hamberder”.

    I am waiting for the judge to throw the book at him, but I’m honestly not expecting it.

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      “If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes should fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.” -Zapp Brannigan

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      Imagine having a deck of cards. Now try to fold them. Slow and difficult right?

      That’s the analogy.

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          … Since we’re being pedantic, the first is a house of cards. A stack of cards can be a deck but a deck is only when it has a complete set of 52 cards. You also don’t ‘fold’ a house of cards, it ‘falls’ or ‘comes down’ to denote it’s instability. ‘folding’ is either literally as in creasing the center and making two ends meet or metaphorically as in poker where you just… Put them aside.

          Since you can’t fold a house of cards and the other meaning wouldn’t make sense, the only possible take away from this sentence is literally folding a stack (but not a deck) of cards. I don’t know why you made me do this.

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    Can a stack of cards get so tall that the bit at the top escapes Earth’s gravity?

    Or does it just take like… most of a decade to fall?

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      The left needs to stop believing that THIS TIME the MAGA followers will see the fraud. It will never happen. There is no house of flares related to his reputation. There is him (the victim truth teller) and the angry left who break laws to bring him down.

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        Their handlers could tell them the sky is green and grass is blue and the next day there’d be dozens of blossoming new conspiracy theories about “big Crayola” and the leftist elites’ woke control over colors and child molestation/adrenal harvesting.

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      The effects of gravity drop at the distance squared. I believe it technically is felt up to the very edge of the universe (if there is one) or infinity. At a more reasonable scale, it would only be if the card got close enough to fall into another bodies gravity well than the Earth’s that it wouldn’t fall back to earth. That’d be a house of cards somewhere around 300k-350k km high to get pulled onto the moon.

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    The rich never get convicted.

    That is why the civil trial to take away his riches is going first before all his criminal trials.

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    The children’s book “the emperor’s new clothes” is so unrealistic who would ever buy into that kind of delusional thinking?

    Meanwhile all the people that have been suckered by this guy despite all the evidence that he is just a con man…

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      As opposed to the current prosecutor. If the current prosecutor commented publicly in such a manner, it would be highly unprofessional. Rather like Trump publicly bashing the judge presiding over his trial…

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    Salon is the liberal version of Brietbart; never trust any analysis that they have.

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    Feels like what they told Reagon in the first CIA briefing…,“The Soviet Union will fall like a deck of cards, because it is a deck of cards.”

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      Granted, it did fall. All it took was for the US and USSR to race each other towards bankruptcy and for the USSR to win.

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          They “won” by going bankrupt first. The reward was the collapse of their system of government. Had the US “won” that race and gone bankrupt instead, we might have seen the nations of New York, California, Texas, etc break off from the US.

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            It was a little more complex than that. The USSR didn’t have an industrial base that it needed, so it took from its satellite countries. Like a house of cards, when economic pressure was put on the top, it was felt on those countries below and they began to revolt. For the US, which had an industrial base, the 30B dollars spent on SDI fantasy was absorbed through debt. There was really no chance of the US going bankrupt.

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      I hate that though. Like, yes I want justice to be thorough, but working slowly has not seemingly worked well enough for this country. Too much time to do damage.