Last year, more middle-aged adults were binge drinking, using marijuana or consuming hallucinogens than ever before, according to a new report. Cannabis use surged among young adults under 30, alongside historic rates of vaping, as well.

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    Is anyone really surprised cannabis use surged? Like with legalization you would think it would have that cause and effect.

    Im glad psychedelic use surged. Makes you see reality differently and can be amazing for mental health issues which needs to be utilized. Fuck the war on drugs

    Alcohol can go away though but it’s hard when there is quite literally no future to be seen

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      If I recall the research, increases are pretty slight from legalization.

      COVID and the largest disruption to social and economic conditions in human history is the alpha and omega for pretty much anything that significantly changed in the last three years.

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        it’s kinda hard to give a fuck about public health regarding cannabis when watching the complete apathy for COVID precautions.

        oh, cannabis makes some people think slower? you sure that wasn’t brain damage from a deadly virus?

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        I’d be curious on this research. I could be completely wrong but I feel like with legalization and having the conveniency of dispensaries it would mean more frequent use and even new use. Do you know if this research was for why they used and not if they would of used it wasn’t legal and didn’t have dispensaries?

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          From my understanding, at least in Canada, we’ve an increase in older people using and a decrease in younger people trying.

          Essentially older people who may have used back in the day generally gave it up when they had kids and lost their plug. Now that it’s legal and available they are going back to it since its easier to get now then having to know some guy and go through that whole rigmarole. As for the younger crowd, dealers aren’t as common since most people just buy it from the store, or grow their own and they have other avenues to form addictions, like social media.

        • I’m finding conflicting research now that I’m looking again. In Colorado for example use definitely went up after legalization but not by a significant amount more than it was already going up, year over year. Youth usage went down.

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          Maybe for new people that didn’t use it because it was illegal.

          Before it was legal I would buy as much as I could because I hated meeting dealers. Now that I can go to a shop I don’t really mind going a few days without.

          I tend to smoke more when I have a lot vs just having an eighth from the dispo that I’ll just stretch because I know I can just go get more any time with ease.

          Also ime with new users where I live. People love the 5mg gummies. That’s not what we used to do with edibles before legalization. I don’t think a lot of new users are getting baked like snoop, unless maybe they are a part of party culture.

          Also it seems younger people consider always-stoned-stoners junkies. It’s not a cool look anymore it’s just pretty pathetic and sad.

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            Ditto. The first 3 paragraphs. Ditto. I smoke less because I can pick up whenever. I ran out 2 weeks ago and will pick up next time I’m in the city and in the area. I could go to the city now but I’m too lazy.

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      Im glad psychedelic use surged. Makes you see reality differently and can be amazing for mental health issues which needs to be utilized. Fuck the war on drugs

      I would still be on SSRIs if it wasn’t for my magic mushies, and they’ve done better than SSRIs ever did.

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        I’ve started growing some for this exact purpose. How do you dose and what form do you take them?

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        I want to use mushrooms again but I went on SSRIs. They changed my life for the better and without them I probably wouldn’t have tried an SSRI. Mushrooms seem better. I only did low doses but went through about an oz of shrooms over the time I used them.

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        Alcohol will remain my favorite drug until they come out with drugs that are more fun than alcohol.

        I’ve done just about everything but heroin, and whole heroin does seem really fun, the externalities are too big to ignore.

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      Several cities (including my own) and Oregon have decriminalized hallucinogenic mushrooms so it is not a huge surprise that rates increased.

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      I mean I agree the war on drugs and the way it’s policed is not the right call. But after looking at what’s happening in Oregon. Not sure I’m totally for just straight up legalize all the things. OD rates are up, and apparently it’s quite common for folks to be nodding off all over the place. It’s not the psechedelics like marijuana and lsd, it’s the synthetic opioids and harder drugs like heroin doing real damage.

      https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2023/07/oregon-drug-decriminalization-results-overdoses/674733/

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        Does anyone have a way to read the article without an account?

        Oregon was setup to fail with it. The US is setup to fail right now. We can’t even agree that addiction is a mental health issue and should be addressed with therapy vs jail. Fentanyl will never be solved, let’s be real. Feds help bring it in.

        Now if you set up clinics for people to do drugs safely AND gave them access to clean drugs it’s a completely different story.

        It’s also not like that is unique to Oregon. Go to Seattle and you’ll see tons of people nodding and OD rates are higher everywhere

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      Just like how the people in the US are surprised how many people are willing to say “I’m queer” now that queer people have a voice.

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    Binge drinking is the misuse of alcohol. But use to excess isn’t implied here for cannabis or hallucinogens.

    It’s like comparing increases in murder, jay walking and loitering; just not very helpful really.

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    Almost like the younger generations got absolutely stalled and now have rough futures thanks to climate change.

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      Throw in a decade or two of “marijuana is bad and will leave you addicted and homeless” just to grow up and find out “nope that was primarily just a few greedy bastards shoving opiates down our throats” and wham, you’ve got yourself a generation primed for escapism.

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    The Wealthy Boomers stole the future from their own kids eyes wide open, now they and their devoted lackeys want to bitch about the swaths of disaffected, that they caused, numbing the pain of that reality.

    What do they want? For us to thank them for the opportunity to have to clean up the multi-generational fallout of their economic, cultural, and ecological damage and be grateful for it? Fuck off with that.

    Humanity will eventually overcome the lead poisoned generation’s kneecapping of it, but don’t expect anyone to start whistling about it.

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    Hmmmm. Let’s see.

    A world on the brink of all-out war again, political parties diving head first into the shallow end of fascism, and increasing signs that mother earth is going to shake us off like a bad case of the fleas.

    Yep. Pass the bong brothers and sisters and don’t skimp on the micro-dose.

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    Gen-X and millennials are getting old and their habits never changed. Film at eleven.

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    Binge drinking aside; weed being legalized in a number of states over the past decade, in addition to this generation realizing the war on drugs was pure nonsense, yeah of course people enjoy getting high. More than likely their reporting is that more people are comfortable admitting they like to party due to society’s relaxing views on drug use.

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    I’m in my forties and last year I got a wild hair and thought that I should try cannabis at least once in my life, and I bought a gummy to try. I spent all night waiting for anything to happen, and just ended up going to bed. I’m missing out on what these people in the article are doing I guess because that was just boring.

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      It’s very common to not feel anything the first time. I don’t know if there is a scientific reason why, I’d be interested to see a study on it. My guess is dosing issues and maybe preconceptions getting in the way.

      You can always try again with a higher dose and/or different delivery method. Edibles especially are difficult to dose because they kick in 2h+ after ingestion and heavily depend on metabolism. Inhalation is essentially immediate.

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        Yeah, edibles are often really weak for me, even when they work. Try smoking or vaping for a better sense of what it’s like.

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          Edibles flat do not work for me. Smoking/vaping however does the trick every single time. Some people are just wired different, you may be one of those people.

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          Edibles heavily depend on your weight and how much you’ve had to eat, so I can’t say. Smoking/vaping is easier because the effects are immediate so you can dose as you go.

          Luckily you can’t OD, so the worst thing that happens is you get really nauseous. You’d have to take A LOT for that to happen though, or combine it with alcohol.

          You can always try a dab pen. Those are really easy and, most likely, you’d get immediately blasted after just one hit. Downside is that the intake method definitely affects the high and dab pens are one of the worst ways to go, or so I’ve heard.

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      You might just not be affected by gummies, other edibles may work for you. If you’re in a legal state, tinctures and vape carts are a good way to experience it.

      I’m like you in that edibles really don’t affect me (I’ve had close to a gram before I felt anything), but I enjoy microdosing with THC carts.

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      I remember my friends and I smoked like $500 in weed in one night to celebrate our high school graduation. It was my first time. The only difference I remember feeling is my throat hurting and getting the munchies.

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    ‘historic rates of vaping, as well’ it’s not like we have a huge stretch of time to be making these kinds of claims lbr lol