• inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      10 hours ago

      No, but perhaps kicking trans people out of the military will radicalize them and put their skills to use against this failed excuse of a country.

  • BlurryBits@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    On one hand, I kinda like the notion that the government can’t simply order a trans soldier to their death, abuse, hazing, et al.

    Heck, can’t order them at all.

    And now the good people, will have the benefit of teachers with extensive military training, that have nothing better to do.

    A perverse win, but I’ll settle for now.

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    This discrimination so fucking dumb, that it circles back into becoming weirdly advantageous for those affected. Dunno about everyone else, but I would most certainly not be torn up over not being accepted into the US Army…

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      While i fully agree. What scares me the most is that representation within military and police is incredibly important in context to how those groups get treated.

      They’re turning everything in a Ignorant fraternity, and we all know the kind of ideology that will be seeded on those groups.

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        That is a very good point, and I agree. I think I’m past the point where I even count The Army as a potential ally for anything progressive, quite the contrary.

        I mean, we’ve been seeing the dynamics already with Police forces (not saying everyone, but enough to tilt the scales the wrong way), and history pretty much says that, with very few exceptions, mechanisms of the State usually fall in line with whoever is the head of said State.

        This is not to say that I lump everyone participating in said mechanisms of the State in the same pot, I know (and hope) that there are individual people who are still sane and doing their best. But the mechanisms/institutions themselves (referring to the concrete contemporary bodies and structures) are so far outside my standards for allocating trust that it’s not even funny.

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      The military makes me nervous, and is not a job I’d choose, but cordially, that’s not the point, and not relevant or helpful for the people who’ve lost their careers with this announcement.

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        Agreed, and I’m sorry if it came off as though I was minimising things. Discrimination is discrimination any way we’d cut it, and this mindless erasure is nothing short of disgusting.

        Grabbing silver linings wherever I can, to my mind this means lowered chances of trans people being sent to their deaths. At least through the military…

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      Fighting discrimination is useful to increase competitiveness.

      Competitiveness generally leads to strong people gaining status (via knowledge, career-building, business successes, respect of their peers) in a civilized way, that is, with less theft and backstabbing.

      This makes areas where discrimination is removed natural enemy of those where theft and backstabbing are the only way. Say, of bureaucracies and crony connections. And if competitiveness is reduced in other areas, they become degenerate and the only strength remains where I said.

      So apparently the anti-discriminatory and other such effects of regulations did not outweigh the anti-competitive ones.

      And I have to make the obvious right-wing observation that if an anti-discriminatory regulation reduces competitiveness more than increases it, including bureaucratic power and points of failure, then it’s a net loss and eventually there will be also more discrimination.

      And Musk and Trump and others “removing unneeded regulations” are showing exactly that, Musk is a child of the system he pretends to be against, and without that system he wouldn’t exist. Same with Trump.

      The problem here is not in truisms said in previous sentences, it’s in some things being visible immediately and some over many years, and people being easily deceived.