• plasticcheese@lemmy.one
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    9 days ago

    Overwatch 2 becomes Overwatch 1 again. Gosh, who saw that coming!? rolls eyes dramatically

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      8 days ago

      A lot of the non game mechanics, yes. But the core gameplay has changed so much it can definitely be called ow2 in my opinion.

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      8 days ago

      I could agree that subjectively it isn’t worth real money, but its kinda silly to say games should never charge for anything. Free games need a source of income, and if it doesn’t effect gameplay in game purchases are fine by me.

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        7 days ago

        It’s objectively abusive. Games convince you to value arbitrary worthless rewards - that is what makes them games. Attaching a price tag exploits how humans are bad at distinguishing forms of value. There’s no conversion ratio between soccer goals and hamburgers, no matter how badly you want a few of each.

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        8 days ago

        They plainly fucking can.

        If you mean to start insisting payment is somehow optional - shelve it. I am against any excuse for charging any player any money for any thing inside a video game. Getting one free lootbox per game or whateverthefuck does not excuse the millions that cost five actual dollars.

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          8 days ago

          Have you ever played Overwatch? Players have been begging for lootboxes since they were removed. Not because they are gambling addicts but because all i mean every single lootbox was free. It remains free now except 2 that you can get in premium battle pass. It’s very tame compared to any other f2p game.

          Make it normal to know context before commenting bs.

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              8 days ago

              It’s clear you never played the game. Idk why you keep coming back. You didn’t have to pay a single dollar to get lootboxes if you played couple hours a week. No one bought them because it was a 40$ game and they were an option to buy.

              I get your point. I don’t like spending money on games either. But that’s not the same for most gamers. Look at rivals skin sales or Valorant skins. You can drain thousands of dollars on these games without any lootboxes. People want that. You can’t change it.

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                8 days ago

                Ban the entire business model. It’s an abuse. There’s no form of it that is separable from deceit. Bickering about numbers means nothing.

                But here you are bullshitting me about how these lootboxes won’t cost money, when that’s what lootboxes are, and I gotta get raked over these specific coals before I’m allowed an opinion about raking anyone over coals. Fuck off. You can’t sneer your way out of denying the blindingly obvious. I spotted where you were going from the first asinine denial and already fucking told you, ‘you don’t have to pay’ doesn’t change that you can in fact pay, and fuck that.

                Fuck any game where you can spend money. It’s a scam. What I like has nothing to do with it. It’s exploitation that’s ruining the entire industry.

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    8 days ago

    That mode is way closer to a moba than csgo. Its kinda just stealing what Deadlock is doing. Even added 3rd person for it.

    Why are writers at the Verge so bad at describing games?

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      8 days ago

      Nah the Verge is just fucking stupid. Its a mode that let’s you buy moba-like upgrades between rounds. The rounds are basically shortened versions of normal overwatch gamemodes.