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    IQ scores, in the way they are currently used, are absolutely useless and cannot tell you who is smart and who is not. They tell you who is good at taking tests.

    I highly recommend the podcast series “My Year in Mensa” - it is a nice little story showing that high IQ probably does not account for much.

    To your question - the answer is humility. Be humble and understanding. Everyone has something to offer.

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      This needs to be more widely known. The human brain is so abstract and the idea of intelligence is so nebulous that it is literally impossible to quantifiably measure whether someone is a genius or not because everyone learns and perceives the world and expresses themselves in such different ways.

      I’m so tired of people perpetuating the idea that IQ can measure anything useful, when the only thing IQ scores do is perpetuate people’s prejudices based on their flawed and narrow ideas of perceived intelligence. Everyone has room to grow and learn and there will always be someone out there who knows things that you don’t.

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        I tested high on the IQ scale. I’m single, unemployed and have trouble making friends. I agree with you completely. Having a high IQ does not substitute for life skills nor does it make you happy.

        The flip side is that having an extremely low IQ can make it very hard for you to navigate the world and perform basic tasks.

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          I tested high on the IQ scale. I’m single, unemployed and have trouble making friends.

          I know I’m just a stranger on the Internet, but those are symptoms of gifted people.

          You should look into giftedness. I’ve recently read a book on it (in french), and it’s helped me lots in understanding my condition, my differences with others as well as the challenges I face in the corporate world.

          I’d be happy to talk about it if you wish!

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      Adding on to this, I pretend to not know things so that others don’t feel stupid. It’s ok to not have an answer for everything or for everyone to think you’re the smartest person in the room.

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        my inability to not give an answer to things mainly tech problems has led me to being my friend groups tech support smh

        im also a rabid googler

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    If people don’t understand you, it’s not because they’re less intelligent; it’s because you’re bad at communicating.

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      As an intelligent person who is constantly misunderstood, this is the secret sauce.

      Things make sense to me quickly and in a way that I can often communicate. But the words I use, the frames that makes sense to me, they often don’t resonate with other people. Thinking of ChatGPT is a probabilistic model tends to not go over well. But if I say, “Tell me, out of all the English words you know, what word do you think comes…” that would go over getter and more intuitively, for example.

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        Bruh, if you had told the teacher you drew your own name, I’m sure they would have arranged for a bunch of people to re-draw, not just you, to prevent that scenario. The other easy solution is to use two bowls, with people only drawing from the bowl their name isn’t in. The attribute you displayed in this anecdote isn’t intelligence, it’s stubbornness.

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          Well, I was 12 years old at the time and very confused as to why they didn’t understand what I was saying.

          You seem to be missing the point and are just trying to be smart in hindsight.

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            I get your point, but I’m trying to dissuade you from it. If you think your inability to communicate is defect in others you’ll never be able to overcome it.

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    By being humble and open to learn at every opportunity. Yes some people are more “simple” than others but that doesn’t mean you cant gain something from interaction with them.

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    This isn’t about being intelligent or not. Everybody has areas where they excel and areas with lack of knowledge and or experience.

    If I have nothing to contribute, I take interest in a topic. If I am the expert, I happily talk or discuss about it. And one still has recreational activities or the weather to report about.

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    I don’t like the way this question is framed. It implies that IQ is a meaningful indicator of intelligence as well as that intelligence can be generalized and measured accurately. In truth, it can’t.

    While there exists a certain correlation between measured IQ and academic success, these things can always explained via different factors as well, for instance the amount care that your parents put into how well you do academicallg early on in life, shaping your values, beliefs and personality. Someone whose parents put effort into making sure they did well at school will probably also care more for taking such an IQ test seriously as well as have academic success. Do note, that there is only little correlation between IQ and later levels of income in their line of work.

    To go back to the actual question, you cope with it by realizing that intelligence is a diverse and complex concept, where different people do well on different things. While you might certainly have a domain where you are objectively “better” at than someone else (measured in some way), this does not mean you are objectively better at every domain. By realizing these personal strengths and personal weaknesses we can overcome them by working in a field where we are best at and learn from others at fields they are better at in order to become a better person all around.

    Humble yourself and never forget that your own personal experience shouldn’t be the gold standard for everyone else. They have their own values and beliefs backed up by their own experience.

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    Just because you’re smart doesn’t mean you’re better. Humility isn’t hard when you realize you can learn something from everyone. I’ve learned more from spending time with my 10yo than I have talking to my professors in uni.

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    Just by staying nice and patient. Not everybody has to understand everything, acceptance is enough. If there is no way for acceptance, I just move on. This can happen to both sides. You know, sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes, well, he eats you.

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    I am fine with people being less traditionally intelligent than myself. I know intelligence has many forms. What really annoys me is when people try to sound intelligent by misusing big words. That makes people sound stupid.

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    People who are in the higher end of the IQ spectre, how do you cope with people not understanding

    This likely has nothing to do with IQ or intelligence. People of all levels of intelligence experience this. This sound much more like an opportunity to recognize your own challenges with communication and of understanding your audience.

    your thought process,

    I like my thought processes. Its a method that works for me to understand the universe, my relationship with it, and how I interact with it and those I share the universe with. Unless someone is specifically asking about trying replicate my thought process, I understand that no one else gives a crap about my thought process itself. Too often when I was younger, I would force my audience to listen to how I arrived at an answer when they really only cared about my answer. Are you volunteering an explanation of your thought process when your audience has indicate no such desire for it? Don’t do that. However, if they ask for your answer, THEN ask about how you arrived at that, then thats in invitation to explain your thought process. They’ve given you permission and consent to take the conversation there. Don’t force that on people unless they want it.

    ideas

    Know (or learn) your audience. Did they come to you asking for your ideas? Or are you trying to force your ideas (and your understanding) on them? Are you speaking to them in a frame of reference they recognize and understand or are you using jargon and language that only you or someone knowledgeable in the specific subject matter will understand? Is your goal to actually get them to understand what you’re trying to communicate or just impress upon them that you understand it? There’s a series of Youtube videos that explain high level concepts (science to music) on a number of different levels. Here’s one on CRISPR gene editing. No where in these does the expert belittle or denigrate their audience. They also don’t expect too much of them. They measure where their audience’s interest and understanding of a topic is and speak to that level with terms and concepts their audience is already familiar with so their audience can come away with this new knowledge and a connection to what they started with.

    or just your way of life?

    It sounds like you’ve just switched topics. You’re not talking about “understanding” now, it sounds like you’ve switched to “acceptance”.

    As an example. Someone might say “How do I get my Uncle to understand I’m gay?”, but I seriously doubt the narrator there is asking how to explain same sex attraction or intercourse. What the narrator is asking is “How do I get my Uncle to accept that I’m gay?”. That is a very very different question, with a different answer.

    So for the question of “How do I get someone to accept my way of life?”, the answer is, you mostly can’t. You have the choice how much you share about your life with your audience, and measure for feedback whether it is positively or negatively received on their part. If you perceive enough negative, its likely better to simply not share those aspects of your life with that person. Whereas if you are getting interest and acceptance from your audience, give them another layer deeper of your life you’re willing to share.

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    If you find you have trouble communicating with people who don’t think at your level, that means you have an opportunity to get better at communication. To bring to the forefront the things the other person cares about, rather than implying them. It’s a good skill to develop, to be able to talk to anybody, and bring things to their perspective. It’ll pay dividends throughout life, and it’ll let you have fun conversations with people at any level. You should be able to hold a conversation with a 5-year-old and a 50-year-old in the same day. And have fun doing both.

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      Though there is a danger to being too persuasive, once people know you and they know there is a perspective disparity between you. They might just turn off their brains when they talk to you. I find it very annoying when those around me just rely on me to make decisions for them rather than trying to make decisions for themselves.

      People are lazy, it’s a heuristic we all use, so if you’re the expert in computers or thinking or politics or whatever, and people trust you, they’ll just go to you for advice and stop trying to think through things on their own. So there’s a balance to be struck here

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      IQ is mostly a pretty arbitrary and pointless metric because things like attitude, process, and creativity matter a lot more for getting results, but it can still help to diagnose learning disabilities and it has a solid statistical underpinning. The only thing it strongly correlates with is chess ability.