• FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    27
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    4 days ago

    It’s so annoying because there has been a small but noticeable rise in anti-semetism, which can probably be explained by the fact Israel is literally commiting human rights abuses which border on the definition of genocide, in fact, they probably fit it.

    But instead of focusing on the genocide, and on the small increase in actual anti-semetism, these people are somehow focusing on the anti-zionism (which is completely justified in the current situation) and conflating it with anti-semetism.

    It’s not anti-semetic to think we should grant palestinian statehood, ideally giving the whole of Jerusalem back to Palestinians.

    • rammer
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      4 days ago

      Israel is literally commiting human rights abuses which border on the definition of genocide, in fact, they probably fit it.

      There’s nothing “probably” about it. Even the UN says it is genocide.

    • Saleh@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      4 days ago

      It is a convenient cover to deflect them blame of antisemitism, which is an European invention and concept for the most part, as well as it is alive and well in “white” Europeans.

      By shifting the blame to Arab and other immigrants and anti-imperialist leftists this serves to further the rise of the far right, while downplaying their antisemitism.

      A Jewish professor who opposes the recent “anti-antisemitism” resolution in Germany put it very well. He noted that the resolution does not refer to the most obvious antisemitic crime in Germany of the past years. An attempted massacre at a Synagogue in Halle by a Neo-Nazi. Instead it mentions the least clear “antisemitic” event, the description of Israel as an apartheid state, by the Israeli and Palestinian directors of the documentary “No Other Land” at the Berlinale 2023.

      So literal Neo-Nazis trying to slaughter Jews seems to not be relevant to mention for the German lawmakers as antisemitism, while calling Israel an apartheid state apparently is an attack on all Jews for these lawmakers. Jews are once again used as a bargaining chip for nationalist politics.

      • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        4 days ago

        Agreed mostly, but I think you’re going much too far by saying anti-semetism is non-existent in non-european places.

        There are countless historical examples proving otherwise, that don’t conflate anti-zionism and anti-semitism.

        • Saleh@feddit.org
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          4 days ago

          It definetely exists and existed outside of Europe but it is predominantlz an European concept. Especiallz the genocidal antisemitism, brought to the extreme by nazi Germany with collaborateurs all over Europe, already has its root at least in the times of the crusades. Pogroms were coined as a term in Eastern Europe as they became more popular their. The whole “race theory” nonsense to somehow make racism “scientific” also included concepts of what would be physical traits of Jews and the British Lord Balfour supported Zionism to get rid of British Jews he deemed “not able to integrate”

          The last point deserves special attention imo. as it shows how the way Jews were perceived in the 19th and 20th century are now transferred to how Muslims are perceived.

        • Saleh@feddit.org
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          3 days ago

          Well there is plenty who do not consider people living here as Europeans, even if their families are in Europe since 2, 3 or more generations. So tye ones who think in these terms are the “white” Europeans trying to shift the blame for their antisemitism away to immigrants.

  • macniel@feddit.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    19
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    3 days ago

    French Europe minister Benjamin Haddad said he organised the gathering in Brussels with his Dutch counterpart to tackle a resurgence in anti-Semitic violence since the start of the war in Gaza.

    “I wanted us to have… a frank conversation about the causes of the rise in antisemitism and the best ways to address it and really make it a priority for the European institutions,” Haddad told French news agency AFP.

    Its a mystery for everyone…

    Dutch officials said Israeli fans were targeted in “hit-and-run” attacks by men on scooters on 7 November, after a Europa League match between Maccabi Tel Aviv and local team Ajax.

    Tensions were high before the match after Israeli fans chanted anti-Arab slogans, vandalised a taxi and burnt a Palestinian flag in Amsterdam’s main square, according to police reports.

    Speaking after the talks, Haddad said however that Europe was witnessing “one of the worst outbreaks of antisemitism” since World War II.

    Ah yes, let those zionist do whatever the fuck they want and then pull the anti-semitism card when People react to those acts of violence.

    Seems a bit lob-sided, no?

    “When we talk about anti-Semitism, it is not just the defence of European Jewish communities that is at stake, it is the preservation… of our fundamental values,” he said.

    Yeah how about we stop bowing to Netanyahus tendencies for once?

    And I really get riled up when they throw anti-semitism (which is always bad) with anti-zionism (justified since the ongoing Genocide) into the same pot.

      • macniel@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        4 days ago

        Anti Zionism is just euphemism for antisemitism

        Uhm pretty sure its not?

        Ut should be anti Netanyahu. It’s all his doing.

        And the israeli citizens who are complicit in their inactions.

      • Saleh@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        4 days ago

        So Netanyahu is illegaly occupying the Westbank, East Jerusalem and Gaza since 1967 all by himself?

        That man must make biblical Goliath look like an ant.