• @charlie_root@lemmy.ml
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    02 years ago

    Mélenchon lost the last bit of credibility he had when he called to vote for Macron on the second run.

    You can’t go on waving the fear of FN/RN indefinitely when this party has never been in power.

    • @Sh3Rm4n@lemmy.ml
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      12 years ago

      What credibility was he losing when he called for a tactical vote which favors him the most? If the vote is only between Macron and Le Pen and the poll were so close you could not risk to not vote, it is obviously better for Mélenchon to call to vote for Macron and therefor against Le Pen.

      Its a pure tactical move and I think also a more practicle solution to have Macron as president as opposed to Le Pen for Mélenchon but especially for NUPES

      • @charlie_root@lemmy.ml
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        12 years ago

        sorry, BS. What would prevents to form the same coalition with LePen ?

        We know what Macron did/does, he is not serving the country. Le Pen won’t sell any of their industrial flagship to anyone. Do not wave “the veil of hatred” as an excuses, it’s pure speculation.

        • @Sh3Rm4n@lemmy.ml
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          12 years ago

          Why do you think that Mélenchon lost his credibility?

          And it sounds like you’d rather want Le Pen in charge instead of Macron, is that correct?

          • @charlie_root@lemmy.ml
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            12 years ago

            And it sounds like you’d rather want Le Pen in charge instead of Macron, is that correct?

            I would rather want anyone else in charge instead of Macron.

            • @Sh3Rm4n@lemmy.ml
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              12 years ago

              And I interpret the situation that Mélenchon rather wants Macron to be in charge instead of Le Pen. I don’t see why he loses his credibility because of that stance.

              • @charlie_root@lemmy.ml
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                12 years ago

                So, you have a betrayer, Macron, in plain sight, you have indeed Le Pen (not really skilled) who has never been in place but at least is concerned by France … but you choose the betrayer. “Yeah but she is racist!”

                This is not what the DOM-TOMs and most of her non-white electors say.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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      02 years ago

      Yeah, calling to vote for Macron was pure opportunism. What I find encouraging is that the left is building dual power in France where they have serious political presence that’s coupled with direct action such as strikes and protests. If this movement grows then it could lead to real systemic change.

      • @charlie_root@lemmy.ml
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        22 years ago

        Opportunism or not, this is a pure example of unreliability.

        Frenchies know what Macron did for 5 years. Even to fight against “right-wing” is not an excuse. This campaign was pure blackmailing.

        So, the left was not able to build a coalition before election and suddenly, they should trust them.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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          12 years ago

          I think the left organizing into a serious political force is an unambiguously good thing. You have to start somewhere, and this is progress. Of course it would be better to have more principled leadership, but you have to work with what you’ve got and try to do better going forward.